Comments for http://www.rubicon.dk Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:29:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 podcast Comment on Zionism today by Rene' Descartes http://www.rubicon.dk/zionism-today//comment-page-1#comment-21180 Rene' Descartes Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:29:26 +0000 http://www.rubicon.dk/?p=1316#comment-21180 I am sorry to say, but I will have to distance myself from your Zionist philosophy. I find it incompatible with my truth and spirituality. I am sorry to say, but I will have to distance myself from your Zionist philosophy. I find it incompatible with my truth and spirituality.

]]> Comment on Libya by Asger Trier Engberg http://www.rubicon.dk/libya//comment-page-1#comment-21179 Asger Trier Engberg Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:50:09 +0000 http://www.rubicon.dk/?p=1234#comment-21179 Well, good points. I agree on most, we should never use force unless we are absolutely forced to do so. When we are forced to use force, as policemen and other servicemen are, it should always be with the greater good in focus, and focus 100% on persons who wish to harm other, or are professional soldiers. Nature, or evil is violent in its basic existence. War is a part of nature. This is the reason we have law; to stop the violence of nature. If we did not have that, we would have more, not less violence. Take an example; a very serious criminal behaviour, like a rapist. He has to stopped, if necessarry with violence. If not, many girls will suffer. This is why the police has a special priviledge to violence, because they protect the law and the weak. This has proved to work since its inception in Babylon, so I support it, and the Abrahamian ideology of love (that Jesus supports) is made in Babylon as well, so there is no contradiction between the two, the supplement each other. That is a way to see it :-) Well, good points.

I agree on most, we should never use force unless we are absolutely forced to do so.

When we are forced to use force, as policemen and other servicemen are, it should always be with the greater good in focus, and focus 100% on persons who wish to harm other, or are professional soldiers.

Nature, or evil is violent in its basic existence. War is a part of nature. This is the reason we have law; to stop the violence of nature. If we did not have that, we would have more, not less violence.

Take an example; a very serious criminal behaviour, like a rapist. He has to stopped, if necessarry with violence. If not, many girls will suffer.

This is why the police has a special priviledge to violence, because they protect the law and the weak.

This has proved to work since its inception in Babylon, so I support it, and the Abrahamian ideology of love (that Jesus supports) is made in Babylon as well, so there is no contradiction between the two, the supplement each other.

That is a way to see it :-)

]]> Comment on Libya by Rene' Descartes http://www.rubicon.dk/libya//comment-page-1#comment-21178 Rene' Descartes Thu, 26 Jan 2012 07:47:13 +0000 http://www.rubicon.dk/?p=1234#comment-21178 Hallo Asger. Let’s help the pathetic situation we have in the world by first being honest on all sides and find common ground. In any conflict, the first casualty is always the TRUTH. Hence any assessment of the conflict is always an error. The powers that be (The 1%) Are going down as the truth become known, therefore they promote conflicts to keep the truth a casualty. Please my friend, don’t support them. The Jewish people are sadly being had like everybody else, and you can describe that in detail yourself one day. The Christians are equally to blame; let me explain why they have been had, by the very same ‘cabal’. From time to time, I read about condemnations of religion coming from non-religious groups and individuals, especially concerning the all-too-common violence perpetrated in the name of religious gods. Indeed there is plenty to condemn. Altogether too many religious sects of both major and minor religions, despite verbally professing a desire for peace and justice in the world, are actually pro-war, pro-homicide and pro-violence in practice (or they may be silent on the subject, which is, according to moral theology, the same as being pro-violence). Obvious examples include those portions of the three major war-justifying religions of the world: fundamentalist Islam, fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Zionism, the followers of the Talmud. I use the term fundamentalist in the sense that the religious person, who ascribes to a fundamentalist point of view, believes, among other dogmatic belief, that their scriptures are flawless and thus they can find passages in their holy books that justify homicidal violence against their perceived or fingered enemies, while simultaneously ignoring the numerous contradictory passages that forbid violence and homicide and instead prescribe love, hospitality, mercy, forgiveness and reconciliation. All scriptures are written by scribes who has little comprehension and many flaws, and not by God. And only God knows what their motives really were when they used their quills. Behind the scenes, of course, there are hidden elites, the Cabal — amoral, politically and financially motivated operatives who are embedded in these religious organizations — who, through the strength of their political power, can easily manipulate the followers into demand war, not against the followers enemies, but rather against the enemies of the ruling elites: the politicians, the financiers and the other exploiters of natural resources. And so nonviolent portions of the various religions – and they are there, albeit often hidden and censored – can be erroneously painted with the same brush that justifiably condemns the hypocrisy and the violence committed in their name. It is certainly true that the Catholic Church endorsed and/or orchestrated the genocide of the Crusades, the Inquisition and many wars of colonization and exploitation — with the origins of these atrocities in fundamentalist interpretations of “holy” scripture. But I do have to take exception to the blanket condemnation of the entirety of the religion by pointing out one reality — that the original form of Christianity, the church of the first generation after Jesus and even most of the first three centuries was a religion of pacifists, oppressed women, orphans, those forced into prostitution, despised people of all stripes and others of those called “the least.” Though this history has long since been forgotten or ignored, the earliest followers of Jesus rejected violence, tried to return good for evil, fed the hungry, did acts of mercy and unconditional love and tried to make friends out of their enemies (by caring for them, feeding them, praying for them and certainly refusing to kill them or pay for somebody else to kill them). The practicality of nonviolence was a hugely successful ethical stance to take. It could be described as an act of divine genius. And it made tremendous practical sense. One bit of evidence of the practicality of gospel nonviolence is the fact that in the first couple of centuries, no early Christian male ever acquired combat-induced PTSD or the soul-destruction that always accompanies that reality. And no early Christian ever felt depressed, ashamed, guilty or suicidal about killing, plundering or raping innocent unarmed women and children in wartime. The earliest Christians took seriously Jesus’s clear command to love and befriend their enemies, and – despite brutal Roman persecutions – the religion survived; indeed, it thrived. In fact, by 300 CE, it had grown into one of the largest religions in the empire, at which point the emperor Constantine (who was a worshipper of the Sun god until his deathbed baptism into the “faith”) co-opted the church by stopping the persecutions and granting it power, property and prestige, thus seducing it into becoming the obedient and increasingly dependent state church whose master was the brutal, often satanic Roman Empire and its army generals. Eventually – and logically – church leaders who were now dependent on the largesse and protection of the empire felt obliged to support it and its troops, pay homage to the emperor and send its young Christian men to violently defend the empire’s borders against the fingered enemy. Or homicidally enlarge the empire if it was profitable for Rome or the Papal State to do so. St. Augustine wrote the first Christian ‘Just War Theory’ in the late Fourth Century, making legitimate, in certain rare circumstances, killing by Christians in wartime, which had been long forbidden to the followers of Jesus. Soon thereafter, Christianity became a religion of justified violence, contrary to the teachings and modelling of Jesus, and it remains that way until this very hour. However, it is generally agreed among Just War scholars that no war in the past 1,700 years has been conducted according to the principles of the Christian Just War Theory; that if the actual principles were applied to an impending war, they would lead Christians back to its original pacifist stance. And so the principles of the CJWT are not taught to the vast majority of Christians. So, the blanket condemnation of homicidal religions, especially Christianity, is justified up to the point of acknowledging that the bulk of the Christian church, over the past 17 centuries, has ignored – or become apathetic to – the nonviolent teachings of Jesus (forgiveness 70 X 7, unending mercy, ministering to “the least of these” and the unconditional love of friend and enemy). Among the realities that keep the churches silent, of course, are the fear of losing the largesse of state-granted tax-exempt status and the threat that their pro-war, dues-paying members might object or leave if church leaders were to speak out prophetically about the ethics of the Sermon on the Mount and the incompatibility of nationalistic militarism with the life and teachings of Jesus. But the Christianity of the first few centuries, when Christians refused to take up the sword, should not be condemned. Rather, critics of Christianity should start challenging the churches to go back to their roots where evil was not allowed to run rampant, but rather was aggressively and courageously resisted using the nonviolent methods of Jesus and his inspired disciples like Tolstoy, Gandhi, Dorothy Day, A. J. Muste, Martin Luther King, the Berrigan brothers, John Dear, Kathy Kelly and a multitude of other courageous prophetic voices. The major motivation for the legendary civil disobedience of those modern-day prophets was their commitment to Jesus and the way he lived his life as pacifist (not passive) active resistor to evil. The followers of that very real Jesus should be courageously “going to the streets” and saying “NO” wherever and whenever fear and hatred raise their ugly heads and try to provoke violence — no matter if it is coming from the US Congress or the Parliament in London, the Oval Office or # 10 Downing Street, in the Knesset or in the headquarters of Hamas, whether in Tehran or in Baghdad or in the Vatican or in Colorado Springs or in the bowels of the 700 Club – or from within the local parish. Jesus of the Gospels was an Nonviolent Leftist and outspoken, who tried to reform his authoritarian conservative, dogmatic church but also refused to shut up with his call for justice for the down-trodden — even when his superiors threatened him with serious consequences if he didn’t. The economic model of Jesus’s early church was socialist, where the resources of the group were shared with the widow and orphans and others who didn’t have enough. He would have stood, like the prophet he was, in solidarity with pacifists, socialists, anti-war activists and feminists and surely would have marched in nonviolent anti-war rallies. Jesus was definitely NOT a punitive, pro-death penalty, pro-militarism conservative. His power came not from the sword but from the power of love. Jesus would surely have condemned his church’s complicity in the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans, the enslavement of black Africans and the segregationist, apartheid policies in my own country that were designed by various ruling elites to destroy ethnic or religious minorities. And if the leadership of his church had been found guilty of or just complicit with such acts, especially genocide, Jesus would surely have insisted on the formation of an independent truth and reconciliation commission to respectfully hear the testimony of the victims, the survivors and the families of the survivors and allow those victims to face their victimizers. And then Jesus would have insisted upon his church repenting of the sins, whether committed by them or their forefathers. The power that Jesus utilized was epitomized by the willingness to do the right thing in the crisis situations even if it involved risks to life or liberty. Fear had no power over him or the martyrs of the early church. His power came out of the holy spirit of love, goodness, mercy and forgiveness and his certainty that, by refusing to do acts of violence, he was doing the will of God. The practicality of that radical stance resulted in the healing power that Jesus’ disciples and apostles exhibited when they started implementing what Jesus had taught and modelled for them. War and violence emanates from an entirely different spirit than the spirit shown by the early church. That spirit is the spirit of the unholy, the spirit of the satanic, the spirit of Cain, also called ‘sons of Belial’. The willingness to kill was the spirit that was strongly present in such historic figures as Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, Eichmann, Stalin, Mussolini (all baptized into pro-war, Constantinian Christian churches). That evil spirit was also present in many sabre-rattling militarists throughout history – the most ruthless presidents, Secretaries of Defence, generals, dictators, legislators, gun-running businessmen and trained assassins that have ever lived – from the ancient low-tech, PTSD-afflicted Achilles, who killed up close and personal, looking into the eyes of his victims, to the ultra-modern, high-tech Air Force, Navy, Army and Marines that orchestrate, usually from safe distances, such atrocities as were perpetrated by Christian soldiers against innocent unarmed civilians at Nagasaki, Dresden, My Lai, Baghdad, Tripoli and Fallujah, to name just a few. It seems to me that the Christian church must start teaching what Jesus taught about violence – that it is forbidden for those who wish to follow him – or our so-called “Christian” nation won’t be able to stop the deadly suicidal/homicidal cycle of war that has been bankrupting most of the world, both financially and morally, for decades. Jesus was absolutely right about the satanic nature of killing. The Golden Rule and his warning about the consequences of living by the sword speaks profound truth. According to just those two teachings, we can say that theologically and spiritually, the high-profile pro-war “Christians” that dominate the news are dead wrong. That brand of Christianity definitely deserves condemnation. What has been criticized by Christianity’s detractors as the norm for Christianity is not the Sermon-on-the-Mount Christianity of Jesus but rather the aberrant “Constantinian/Paulinian Christianity,” a religion that espouses an anti-Christic, punitive theology that justifies killing fellow children of God in the name of the one who forbade it 2,000 years ago. Church leaders need to repent of their support for (or their silence about) their nation’s state-sponsored terrorism and start acting ethically, as if the Sermon on the Mount mattered. The Christian church MUST take the lead in this or be doomed — as doomed as was Germany’s dominant Constantinian Christianity of the first half of the 20th century, whose pro-military, nationalist, racist, xenophobic, domination theology permitted torture, genocide and two brutal world wars that ultimately resulted in the suicide of German Christianity, not to mention the complete destruction of the nation by its provoked enemies. One wonders what would have happened if every German and Russian and American church had been a real peace church, as the founder envisioned? The real question is, will we learn the lessons of history, or is it already too late? I am humbly Rene' Descartes Hallo Asger. Let’s help the pathetic situation we have in the world by first being honest on all sides and find common ground. In any conflict, the first casualty is always the TRUTH. Hence any assessment of the conflict is always an error. The powers that be (The 1%) Are going down as the truth become known, therefore they promote conflicts to keep the truth a casualty. Please my friend, don’t support them. The Jewish people are sadly being had like everybody else, and you can describe that in detail yourself one day. The Christians are equally to blame; let me explain why they have been had, by the very same ‘cabal’.
From time to time, I read about condemnations of religion coming from non-religious groups and individuals, especially concerning the all-too-common violence perpetrated in the name of religious gods. Indeed there is plenty to condemn.
Altogether too many religious sects of both major and minor religions, despite verbally professing a desire for peace and justice in the world, are actually pro-war, pro-homicide and pro-violence in practice (or they may be silent on the subject, which is, according to moral theology, the same as being pro-violence).
Obvious examples include those portions of the three major war-justifying religions of the world: fundamentalist Islam, fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Zionism, the followers of the Talmud.
I use the term fundamentalist in the sense that the religious person, who ascribes to a fundamentalist point of view, believes, among other dogmatic belief, that their scriptures are flawless and thus they can find passages in their holy books that justify homicidal violence against their perceived or fingered enemies, while simultaneously ignoring the numerous contradictory passages that forbid violence and homicide and instead prescribe love, hospitality, mercy, forgiveness and reconciliation. All scriptures are written by scribes who has little comprehension and many flaws, and not by God. And only God knows what their motives really were when they used their quills.
Behind the scenes, of course, there are hidden elites, the Cabal — amoral, politically and financially motivated operatives who are embedded in these religious organizations — who, through the strength of their political power, can easily manipulate the followers into demand war, not against the followers enemies, but rather against the enemies of the ruling elites: the politicians, the financiers and the other exploiters of natural resources.
And so nonviolent portions of the various religions – and they are there, albeit often hidden and censored – can be erroneously painted with the same brush that justifiably condemns the hypocrisy and the violence committed in their name.
It is certainly true that the Catholic Church endorsed and/or orchestrated the genocide of the Crusades, the Inquisition and many wars of colonization and exploitation — with the origins of these atrocities in fundamentalist interpretations of “holy” scripture.
But I do have to take exception to the blanket condemnation of the entirety of the religion by pointing out one reality — that the original form of Christianity, the church of the first generation after Jesus and even most of the first three centuries was a religion of pacifists, oppressed women, orphans, those forced into prostitution, despised people of all stripes and others of those called “the least.”
Though this history has long since been forgotten or ignored, the earliest followers of Jesus rejected violence, tried to return good for evil, fed the hungry, did acts of mercy and unconditional love and tried to make friends out of their enemies (by caring for them, feeding them, praying for them and certainly refusing to kill them or pay for somebody else to kill them).
The practicality of nonviolence was a hugely successful ethical stance to take. It could be described as an act of divine genius. And it made tremendous practical sense. One bit of evidence of the practicality of gospel nonviolence is the fact that in the first couple of centuries, no early Christian male ever acquired combat-induced PTSD or the soul-destruction that always accompanies that reality.
And no early Christian ever felt depressed, ashamed, guilty or suicidal about killing, plundering or raping innocent unarmed women and children in wartime. The earliest Christians took seriously Jesus’s clear command to love and befriend their enemies, and – despite brutal Roman persecutions – the religion survived; indeed, it thrived.
In fact, by 300 CE, it had grown into one of the largest religions in the empire, at which point the emperor Constantine (who was a worshipper of the Sun god until his deathbed baptism into the “faith”) co-opted the church by stopping the persecutions and granting it power, property and prestige, thus seducing it into becoming the obedient and increasingly dependent state church whose master was the brutal, often satanic Roman Empire and its army generals.
Eventually – and logically – church leaders who were now dependent on the largesse and protection of the empire felt obliged to support it and its troops, pay homage to the emperor and send its young Christian men to violently defend the empire’s borders against the fingered enemy. Or homicidally enlarge the empire if it was profitable for Rome or the Papal State to do so.
St. Augustine wrote the first Christian ‘Just War Theory’ in the late Fourth Century, making legitimate, in certain rare circumstances, killing by Christians in wartime, which had been long forbidden to the followers of Jesus.
Soon thereafter, Christianity became a religion of justified violence, contrary to the teachings and modelling of Jesus, and it remains that way until this very hour. However, it is generally agreed among Just War scholars that no war in the past 1,700 years has been conducted according to the principles of the Christian Just War Theory; that if the actual principles were applied to an impending war, they would lead Christians back to its original pacifist stance. And so the principles of the CJWT are not taught to the vast majority of Christians.
So, the blanket condemnation of homicidal religions, especially Christianity, is justified up to the point of acknowledging that the bulk of the Christian church, over the past 17 centuries, has ignored – or become apathetic to – the nonviolent teachings of Jesus (forgiveness 70 X 7, unending mercy, ministering to “the least of these” and the unconditional love of friend and enemy).
Among the realities that keep the churches silent, of course, are the fear of losing the largesse of state-granted tax-exempt status and the threat that their pro-war, dues-paying members might object or leave if church leaders were to speak out prophetically about the ethics of the Sermon on the Mount and the incompatibility of nationalistic militarism with the life and teachings of Jesus.
But the Christianity of the first few centuries, when Christians refused to take up the sword, should not be condemned. Rather, critics of Christianity should start challenging the churches to go back to their roots where evil was not allowed to run rampant, but rather was aggressively and courageously resisted using the nonviolent methods of Jesus and his inspired disciples like Tolstoy, Gandhi, Dorothy Day, A. J. Muste, Martin Luther King, the Berrigan brothers, John Dear, Kathy Kelly and a multitude of other courageous prophetic voices.
The major motivation for the legendary civil disobedience of those modern-day prophets was their commitment to Jesus and the way he lived his life as pacifist (not passive) active resistor to evil.
The followers of that very real Jesus should be courageously “going to the streets” and saying “NO” wherever and whenever fear and hatred raise their ugly heads and try to provoke violence — no matter if it is coming from the US Congress or the Parliament in London, the Oval Office or # 10 Downing Street, in the Knesset or in the headquarters of Hamas, whether in Tehran or in Baghdad or in the Vatican or in Colorado Springs or in the bowels of the 700 Club – or from within the local parish.
Jesus of the Gospels was an Nonviolent Leftist and outspoken, who tried to reform his authoritarian conservative, dogmatic church but also refused to shut up with his call for justice for the down-trodden — even when his superiors threatened him with serious consequences if he didn’t.
The economic model of Jesus’s early church was socialist, where the resources of the group were shared with the widow and orphans and others who didn’t have enough. He would have stood, like the prophet he was, in solidarity with pacifists, socialists, anti-war activists and feminists and surely would have marched in nonviolent anti-war rallies.
Jesus was definitely NOT a punitive, pro-death penalty, pro-militarism conservative. His power came not from the sword but from the power of love.
Jesus would surely have condemned his church’s complicity in the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans, the enslavement of black Africans and the segregationist, apartheid policies in my own country that were designed by various ruling elites to destroy ethnic or religious minorities.
And if the leadership of his church had been found guilty of or just complicit with such acts, especially genocide, Jesus would surely have insisted on the formation of an independent truth and reconciliation commission to respectfully hear the testimony of the victims, the survivors and the families of the survivors and allow those victims to face their victimizers. And then Jesus would have insisted upon his church repenting of the sins, whether committed by them or their forefathers.
The power that Jesus utilized was epitomized by the willingness to do the right thing in the crisis situations even if it involved risks to life or liberty. Fear had no power over him or the martyrs of the early church. His power came out of the holy spirit of love, goodness, mercy and forgiveness and his certainty that, by refusing to do acts of violence, he was doing the will of God.
The practicality of that radical stance resulted in the healing power that Jesus’ disciples and apostles exhibited when they started implementing what Jesus had taught and modelled for them.
War and violence emanates from an entirely different spirit than the spirit shown by the early church. That spirit is the spirit of the unholy, the spirit of the satanic, the spirit of Cain, also called ‘sons of Belial’. The willingness to kill was the spirit that was strongly present in such historic figures as Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, Eichmann, Stalin, Mussolini (all baptized into pro-war, Constantinian Christian churches).
That evil spirit was also present in many sabre-rattling militarists throughout history – the most ruthless presidents, Secretaries of Defence, generals, dictators, legislators, gun-running businessmen and trained assassins that have ever lived – from the ancient low-tech, PTSD-afflicted Achilles, who killed up close and personal, looking into the eyes of his victims, to the ultra-modern, high-tech Air Force, Navy, Army and Marines that orchestrate, usually from safe distances, such atrocities as were perpetrated by Christian soldiers against innocent unarmed civilians at Nagasaki, Dresden, My Lai, Baghdad, Tripoli and Fallujah, to name just a few.
It seems to me that the Christian church must start teaching what Jesus taught about violence – that it is forbidden for those who wish to follow him – or our so-called “Christian” nation won’t be able to stop the deadly suicidal/homicidal cycle of war that has been bankrupting most of the world, both financially and morally, for decades.
Jesus was absolutely right about the satanic nature of killing. The Golden Rule and his warning about the consequences of living by the sword speaks profound truth. According to just those two teachings, we can say that theologically and spiritually, the high-profile pro-war “Christians” that dominate the news are dead wrong.
That brand of Christianity definitely deserves condemnation. What has been criticized by Christianity’s detractors as the norm for Christianity is not the Sermon-on-the-Mount Christianity of Jesus but rather the aberrant “Constantinian/Paulinian Christianity,” a religion that espouses an anti-Christic, punitive theology that justifies killing fellow children of God in the name of the one who forbade it 2,000 years ago.
Church leaders need to repent of their support for (or their silence about) their nation’s state-sponsored terrorism and start acting ethically, as if the Sermon on the Mount mattered.
The Christian church MUST take the lead in this or be doomed — as doomed as was Germany’s dominant Constantinian Christianity of the first half of the 20th century, whose pro-military, nationalist, racist, xenophobic, domination theology permitted torture, genocide and two brutal world wars that ultimately resulted in the suicide of German Christianity, not to mention the complete destruction of the nation by its provoked enemies.
One wonders what would have happened if every German and Russian and American church had been a real peace church, as the founder envisioned? The real question is, will we learn the lessons of history, or is it already too late?
I am humbly
Rene’ Descartes

]]> Comment on Never surrender by Asger Trier Engberg http://www.rubicon.dk/surrender//comment-page-1#comment-21177 Asger Trier Engberg Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:06:35 +0000 http://www.rubicon.dk/?p=1225#comment-21177 Well it is quite simple, it is the bureaucracy. The bureaucracy has morphed, through different stages into a selfhating, antinational system that is working against and not for the people. I certainly do not hope that the system starts fighting the countries more than it does already, and there are good signs, but if it conspires actively with the enemies of the europeans, people like Ahmedinejad and the sorts, we have a serious problems. Especially if you know the content of the Ahmadinejan philosophy, or what you would call it. To be enlightened you have to be true about the world :-) Well it is quite simple, it is the bureaucracy. The bureaucracy has morphed, through different stages into a selfhating, antinational system that is working against and not for the people.

I certainly do not hope that the system starts fighting the countries more than it does already, and there are good signs, but if it conspires actively with the enemies of the europeans, people like Ahmedinejad and the sorts, we have a serious problems. Especially if you know the content of the Ahmadinejan philosophy, or what you would call it.

To be enlightened you have to be true about the world :-)

]]> Comment on Never surrender by Rene' Descartes http://www.rubicon.dk/surrender//comment-page-1#comment-21176 Rene' Descartes Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:08:21 +0000 http://www.rubicon.dk/?p=1225#comment-21176 Hallo Bilbo. You are so right, however the question is, Who are the old guard you mentioned? Is it the ones who created the system? Do you think that they will just go away without a fight? or with a wimper? I think not, is an contradicion quote from Rene Descartes. Hallo Bilbo. You are so right, however the question is, Who are the old guard you mentioned? Is it the ones who created the system? Do you think that they will just go away without a fight? or with a wimper?
I think not, is an contradicion quote from Rene Descartes.

]]> Comment on Never surrender by bilbo http://www.rubicon.dk/surrender//comment-page-1#comment-21175 bilbo Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:07:42 +0000 http://www.rubicon.dk/?p=1225#comment-21175 the old guard are discredited, they know this. they fight merely to preserve the status-quo for only as long as they live. they have no vision, either of what they have caused, or how to cure it. the old parties of consensus politics will be bulldozed aside, unless they change and stop their cowardly and dishonest ways. this, they appear unwilling or unable to do. the old guard are discredited, they know this.
they fight merely to preserve the status-quo for only as long as they live.
they have no vision, either of what they have caused, or how to cure it.
the old parties of consensus politics will be bulldozed aside, unless they change and stop their cowardly and dishonest ways.
this, they appear unwilling or unable to do.

]]> Comment on Honesty by Asger Trier Engberg http://www.rubicon.dk/honesty//comment-page-1#comment-21174 Asger Trier Engberg Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:14:44 +0000 http://www.rubicon.dk/?p=1156#comment-21174 Dear Rene :-) Well, as always, my moral voice :-) Listen, I understand what you are saying, but please we are heading for a war in the Middle East, and the West is very much involved. It is a war of an extreme complexity with many caveaets. But it is a war we have take, simply becuase the other alternative is not bareable; a nuclear armed Iran is an enemy we wish not to have, especially with the madman ideology professed by the leader Ahmedinejad. Now, you might disagree, but if I tell you, that the chaotic substance of his ideology is very close to a certain fallen angel, you might understand my attitude. But, you know, it is really not so complicated when it comes to the reason why i wrote the last postings; it is to help a friend of mine, in analyzing the difficult situation he is in meeting. We are heading for war, should a philosopher not give his ideas as how to work on it? If not me, who should. There will be a war, but we should fight it with the utmost care to ethics, that is my view on it. But, thank you for your consideration. I do think a lot about it. :-) Dear Rene :-)

Well, as always, my moral voice :-)

Listen, I understand what you are saying, but please we are heading for a war in the Middle East, and the West is very much involved. It is a war of an extreme complexity with many caveaets. But it is a war we have take, simply becuase the other alternative is not bareable; a nuclear armed Iran is an enemy we wish not to have, especially with the madman ideology professed by the leader Ahmedinejad.

Now, you might disagree, but if I tell you, that the chaotic substance of his ideology is very close to a certain fallen angel, you might understand my attitude.

But, you know, it is really not so complicated when it comes to the reason why i wrote the last postings; it is to help a friend of mine, in analyzing the difficult situation he is in meeting.

We are heading for war, should a philosopher not give his ideas as how to work on it? If not me, who should.

There will be a war, but we should fight it with the utmost care to ethics, that is my view on it.

But, thank you for your consideration. I do think a lot about it.

:-)

]]> Comment on Honesty by Rene' Descartes http://www.rubicon.dk/honesty//comment-page-1#comment-21173 Rene' Descartes Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:14:25 +0000 http://www.rubicon.dk/?p=1156#comment-21173 Hallo Asger. Hundreds of thousands years ago I incarnated for the first time with a group of second wavers for a specific purpose, to help the first wavers to regain their higher consciousness and give then a change to reach perfection, so they too could leave this world and never have to reincarnate again unless they chose to. The rules were clear. We could NOT interfere with people’s free will, but only show the truth by word and example and through our love for truth. Love for all truth (which is Wisdom), is called “Philosophy”. And since God is truth, “philosophy” also means “love of God”. Unfortunately, the intellectual truth many people possess is not necessarily what they say when speaking and conducting themselves, in other words, they know the truth, but act in selfishness. They massage the truth for their own benefit and to their opponent’s detriment. But as they say, “the proof is in the pudding”. A few of the second wave of Souls unfortunately, over time, became intellectuals and went really bad. They had the intellectual knowledge, but chose not to live by what they knew to be the truth. (Intellectuals do that). They live by taking advantage of others, which they can easily do with their intellect The rest of us second wave Souls now had to deal with the bad second wave ones as well as the original first wave problem. The bad second wavers, with their powerful intellect, loved the control and power and sexual benefits they had over the simple minded first wavers, and controlling their simple minds became an obsession, hence some religions started for the reason of smoke-screening the truth, but claiming it, to be the truth. Thousands of years ago, the concept of religion, and there were many different venues of this, was established, to help all the lost first wave of Souls in a certain direction to evolve to a spiritual goal. Nobody needed to be saved, since all were created with the talent of self-correction, they just had to be made aware. Some religions were better than others, and some were really bad. What unfortunately happened was that some bad second wavers became priest, rabbis, evangelist, Kings and politicians and other group teachers of whatever kind, and who many even practice today, kept the developing Souls on this primitive religious step with none, or only a little chance to evolve onward toward their true destiny, which is the Spiritual insight. Religions wanted people to follow their dogma, their book and their teachers, using many clever arguments. Spirituality tries to help people to think for themselves. Religion try to entertain intellectually through TV shows, fear mongering, guilt trips, superiority trips and violence. Spirituality suggests quiet meditation so people can learn to think and reason for themselves again. Where do you stand my friend? You know the questions Plato asked. What am I? Why am I here? Purpose? What is my Origin? And Destiny How do we achieve our purpose? The 4 true answers to this, are what true religion was ment to be. What are your answers or views? My friend, do not be part of the conflict somewhere else in the world, be part of the solution by enlightening people with your blog, otherwise you Karma will become a burden to you, trust me. There is so much good even in the worse of us, and so much bad even in the best of us, that it behoves no one to judge anybody. What I am saying is that the information you have on the subject of Iran and the Saudis may be erroneous, or twisted or fabricated. Let the benefit of doubt be towards the good. Get closer to the Creator, don’t distance yourself from others of his creation. You are getting close to the edge. Make the same righteous choice Joseph did with his brothers. I hate to tell you this, my friend, but your war mongering 3 latest scripts is way below your level. What do you think your purpose in life is? Please don’t regress; this life is your last chance to make it before the fat Lady sings. All the best and good luck. I am Rene’ (: Hallo Asger. Hundreds of thousands years ago I incarnated for the first time with a group of second wavers for a specific purpose, to help the first wavers to regain their higher consciousness and give then a change to reach perfection, so they too could leave this world and never have to reincarnate again unless they chose to. The rules were clear. We could NOT interfere with people’s free will, but only show the truth by word and example and through our love for truth.
Love for all truth (which is Wisdom), is called “Philosophy”. And since God is truth, “philosophy” also means “love of God”. Unfortunately, the intellectual truth many people possess is not necessarily what they say when speaking and conducting themselves, in other words, they know the truth, but act in selfishness. They massage the truth for their own benefit and to their opponent’s detriment. But as they say, “the proof is in the pudding”. A few of the second wave of Souls unfortunately, over time, became intellectuals and went really bad. They had the intellectual knowledge, but chose not to live by what they knew to be the truth. (Intellectuals do that). They live by taking advantage of others, which they can easily do with their intellect
The rest of us second wave Souls now had to deal with the bad second wave ones as well as the original first wave problem. The bad second wavers, with their powerful intellect, loved the control and power and sexual benefits they had over the simple minded first wavers, and controlling their simple minds became an obsession, hence some religions started for the reason of smoke-screening the truth, but claiming it, to be the truth.
Thousands of years ago, the concept of religion, and there were many different venues of this, was established, to help all the lost first wave of Souls in a certain direction to evolve to a spiritual goal. Nobody needed to be saved, since all were created with the talent of self-correction, they just had to be made aware. Some religions were better than others, and some were really bad. What unfortunately happened was that some bad second wavers became priest, rabbis, evangelist, Kings and politicians and other group teachers of whatever kind, and who many even practice today, kept the developing Souls on this primitive religious step with none, or only a little chance to evolve onward toward their true destiny, which is the Spiritual insight. Religions wanted people to follow their dogma, their book and their teachers, using many clever arguments. Spirituality tries to help people to think for themselves. Religion try to entertain intellectually through TV shows, fear mongering, guilt trips, superiority trips and violence. Spirituality suggests quiet meditation so people can learn to think and reason for themselves again. Where do you stand my friend?
You know the questions Plato asked.
What am I?
Why am I here? Purpose?
What is my Origin? And Destiny
How do we achieve our purpose?
The 4 true answers to this, are what true religion was ment to be. What are your answers or views?
My friend, do not be part of the conflict somewhere else in the world, be part of the solution by enlightening people with your blog, otherwise you Karma will become a burden to you, trust me. There is so much good even in the worse of us, and so much bad even in the best of us, that it behoves no one to judge anybody. What I am saying is that the information you have on the subject of Iran and the Saudis may be erroneous, or twisted or fabricated. Let the benefit of doubt be towards the good. Get closer to the Creator, don’t distance yourself from others of his creation. You are getting close to the edge. Make the same righteous choice Joseph did with his brothers. I hate to tell you this, my friend, but your war mongering 3 latest scripts is way below your level. What do you think your purpose in life is? Please don’t regress; this life is your last chance to make it before the fat Lady sings.
All the best and good luck.
I am
Rene’
(:

]]> Comment on The multiculturalists; the crazy people by Rene' Descartes http://www.rubicon.dk/multiculturalists-cracy-people//comment-page-1#comment-21172 Rene' Descartes Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:16:15 +0000 http://www.rubicon.dk/?p=1133#comment-21172 Hallo Asger.  When only one man rules, historically by brute force, and everybody else is ruled, we call it tyranny. When a continuous genetic family line rules, we call them Kings and Queens. When a small military group rules we call them Juntas. And when 51% rules and only 49% hate it, we call it democracy, but the democratic system is still frightfully primitive. Democracy is just a lesser evil, percentage wise, lesser than the former. It is all simply a matter of degree. Unfortunately this evolution of governance will not continue to the point where everybody gets their total personal freedom, and allow others theirs. This much admired democracy, have lately regressed and been perverted and has now become 1% ruling the 99%. And still call it democracy. Are people stupid, or what? Well it sucks. Like Stalin said….”I don’t give a s##t who people vote for. As long as I control the person who count the votes”. Democracy is made by deceiving individuals into thinking they are equals, which they are not, nobody are. (Due to our very different karmic accountability from previous incarnations and level of enlightenment and conscious awareness we have gained using our free will), only by accepting the individuality of mankind with Love and understanding will civilization progress. Freedom requires tolerance and understanding. What we have now, need to be dismantled before we can progress. What I think will be achieved one day, is the acceptance of the fact that no-one is better than anyone else (Sorry about that) and no-one have the right to rule anybody else, period. What ever happen to freedom? And Freedom from what? Freedom is what it is all about. Accepting others peoples freedom and harmlessness, of course require reasoning and common sense. What history so clearly has shown in the last 3000 years is, that, selfishness and egotism, the two most reptilian human traits, was given totally free rein so common people could learn to realize how stupid it is, and become so disgusted by it, SO AS TO OVERCOME IT. Which many people have, but sadly few have not. Tyrants, Kings, Politicians, whoever, have all been ruling egotistically and selfishly, and constantly telling others what to do, and acting as they were superior, genetically, racially, religiously, and intellectually, in some unexplained or self-explained way. This was allowed by God so all incarnate Souls could, through many incarnations, experience the separate selfish consciousness, of themselves and of others, and realize the futility and ignorance of it. And the one hundred monkey has realized it by now. Selfishness and ego is slowly coming to an end, as we write. The fly in the ointment is our different accountability, (Karma) we will face when our body dies. The way the world has evolved the last 50 years or so, is strange to say the least, a kind of bizarre grand finale. At the present time, anarchism sadly appears to be the most tasteful, practical and trustworthy system to embrace? However, the selfish egomaniacs have ruined that as well, through bad-mouthing propaganda. We are simply tiered of stupid and corrupt people telling us what to do. Democracy has been, and are, extremely harmful and hurtful to people of other views. You see, so-called Democracies are the easiest system to misuse, and take advantage of, and that is being done big times right now, while the democratic stooges are now starting wars and killing people, right left and center who don’t agree with the egomaniacal politician’s selfish and misguided conceptions of right and wrong. I predict a future 50 years from now, after the soon coming earth changing turmoil, that only two basic laws will exist. The first is the golden rule: Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. And the second law: Harmlessness and freedom…… You are free to do anything that does not harm ANYBODY. To achieve that, all middlemen (Priests, rabbis, bankers and politicians etc.) will be made redundant. But don’t worry. The saying “the survival of the physically fittest” simply shows lag of conscious awareness and compassion. In other words, this erroneous philosophy is “Inhuman and deceptive”, as are so-called democracy and capitalism. All bodies will die, and ALL Souls will survive. The question is HOW will the Soul survive? Yes, Souls are the fittest by far, and they all survive. The Royal bloodlines, racial bloodlines and tribal bloodlines are a scam. The individual Soul using the human bloodline is what has the accountability and that is what really matters. Fortunately, dead is only a bodily thing. What is your explanation going to be when you have to face the music of life between lives? However, despair not, only third wave Souls are entering our world right now, to helping us to achieve what need to be achieved. All over the world there are dissatisfied demonstrators and people in need of freedom, and the people with big egos and separate consciousness simply cannot grasp the finality of this dying system. The few who clandestinely organized many of the problems think they control the world stage, and the failures, and demonstrations and “occupy”, whatever, but it is totally beyond their limited grasp to see what the final result will be, which is only known to a few of us. They were grossly mistaken and now cannot put the Genie back into the bottle. When the realisation of the future matures in most people, the destruction of all systems both the simple and abstract will show and make plain the selfishness and egotism of the system, it will be destroyed and drift into history as primitive and barbarian like. Trust me. Multiculturalism has sadly become a suave word to use, and like anti-Semitism, now used as a SMEARWORD, to label several large groups or foreign systems or religions as evil for the actions of few individual’s actions and decisions. Mostly used by HATE-mongers. Kind and harmless people of all cultures and religions get along beautifully, whereas egotistical and selfish people of all cultures or religions don’t get along with anybody, not even their own kind, hence the real problems are people’s ego and level of selfishness, and not multiculturism. The Jewish culture is part of the multiculturism in Denmark. Accepted by many, and for good reason, but sadly hated by few. Multicultural people have many degrees of acceptability. Kind and loving people are fitting into other people’s lives beautifully, but jerks are not. I am humbly Rene' Hallo Asger.  When only one man rules, historically by brute force, and everybody else is ruled, we call it tyranny. When a continuous genetic family line rules, we call them Kings and Queens. When a small military group rules we call them Juntas. And when 51% rules and only 49% hate it, we call it democracy, but the democratic system is still frightfully primitive. Democracy is just a lesser evil, percentage wise, lesser than the former. It is all simply a matter of degree. Unfortunately this evolution of governance will not continue to the point where everybody gets their total personal freedom, and allow others theirs. This much admired democracy, have lately regressed and been perverted and has now become 1% ruling the 99%. And still call it democracy. Are people stupid, or what? Well it sucks. Like Stalin said….”I don’t give a s##t who people vote for. As long as I control the person who count the votes”. Democracy is made by deceiving individuals into thinking they are equals, which they are not, nobody are. (Due to our very different karmic accountability from previous incarnations and level of enlightenment and conscious awareness we have gained using our free will), only by accepting the individuality of mankind with Love and understanding will civilization progress. Freedom requires tolerance and understanding. What we have now, need to be dismantled before we can progress. What I think will be achieved one day, is the acceptance of the fact that no-one is better than anyone else (Sorry about that) and no-one have the right to rule anybody else, period. What ever happen to freedom? And Freedom from what? Freedom is what it is all about. Accepting others peoples freedom and harmlessness, of course require reasoning and common sense. What history so clearly has shown in the last 3000 years is, that, selfishness and egotism, the two most reptilian human traits, was given totally free rein so common people could learn to realize how stupid it is, and become so disgusted by it, SO AS TO OVERCOME IT. Which many people have, but sadly few have not. Tyrants, Kings, Politicians, whoever, have all been ruling egotistically and selfishly, and constantly telling others what to do, and acting as they were superior, genetically, racially, religiously, and intellectually, in some unexplained or self-explained way. This was allowed by God so all incarnate Souls could, through many incarnations, experience the separate selfish consciousness, of themselves and of others, and realize the futility and ignorance of it. And the one hundred monkey has realized it by now. Selfishness and ego is slowly coming to an end, as we write. The fly in the ointment is our different accountability, (Karma) we will face when our body dies. The way the world has evolved the last 50 years or so, is strange to say the least, a kind of bizarre grand finale. At the present time, anarchism sadly appears to be the most tasteful, practical and trustworthy system to embrace? However, the selfish egomaniacs have ruined that as well, through bad-mouthing propaganda. We are simply tiered of stupid and corrupt people telling us what to do. Democracy has been, and are, extremely harmful and hurtful to people of other views. You see, so-called Democracies are the easiest system to misuse, and take advantage of, and that is being done big times right now, while the democratic stooges are now starting wars and killing people, right left and center who don’t agree with the egomaniacal politician’s selfish and misguided conceptions of right and wrong.
I predict a future 50 years from now, after the soon coming earth changing turmoil, that only two basic laws will exist.
The first is the golden rule: Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. And the second law: Harmlessness and freedom…… You are free to do anything that does not harm ANYBODY.
To achieve that, all middlemen (Priests, rabbis, bankers and politicians etc.) will be made redundant. But don’t worry.
The saying “the survival of the physically fittest” simply shows lag of conscious awareness and compassion. In other words, this erroneous philosophy is “Inhuman and deceptive”, as are so-called democracy and capitalism. All bodies will die, and ALL Souls will survive. The question is HOW will the Soul survive? Yes, Souls are the fittest by far, and they all survive. The Royal bloodlines, racial bloodlines and tribal bloodlines are a scam. The individual Soul using the human bloodline is what has the accountability and that is what really matters. Fortunately, dead is only a bodily thing. What is your explanation going to be when you have to face the music of life between lives?
However, despair not, only third wave Souls are entering our world right now, to helping us to achieve what need to be achieved. All over the world there are dissatisfied demonstrators and people in need of freedom, and the people with big egos and separate consciousness simply cannot grasp the finality of this dying system. The few who clandestinely organized many of the problems think they control the world stage, and the failures, and demonstrations and “occupy”, whatever, but it is totally beyond their limited grasp to see what the final result will be, which is only known to a few of us. They were grossly mistaken and now cannot put the Genie back into the bottle. When the realisation of the future matures in most people, the destruction of all systems both the simple and abstract will show and make plain the selfishness and egotism of the system, it will be destroyed and drift into history as primitive and barbarian like. Trust me.
Multiculturalism has sadly become a suave word to use, and like anti-Semitism, now used as a SMEARWORD, to label several large groups or foreign systems or religions as evil for the actions of few individual’s actions and decisions. Mostly used by HATE-mongers. Kind and harmless people of all cultures and religions get along beautifully, whereas egotistical and selfish people of all cultures or religions don’t get along with anybody, not even their own kind, hence the real problems are people’s ego and level of selfishness, and not multiculturism. The Jewish culture is part of the multiculturism in Denmark. Accepted by many, and for good reason, but sadly hated by few. Multicultural people have many degrees of acceptability. Kind and loving people are fitting into other people’s lives beautifully, but jerks are not.
I am
humbly
Rene’

]]> Comment on The islamists: The nazis of our time by Asger Trier Engberg http://www.rubicon.dk/islamists-nazis-time//comment-page-1#comment-21171 Asger Trier Engberg Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:15:13 +0000 http://www.rubicon.dk/?p=1128#comment-21171 Dear Rene :-) Thank you for your comment. I have been pondering for some time on your critical stance on democracy and zionism. First of all, as I see it, I do not hold the "simple" notion of either. With all respect for the zionist and democratic ideas that we have seen for long, I respectfully believe, that you have to see these ideas both in the simplicity as well as their complexity. If you see democracy as only a simple voting system, you fail to appreciate the comlexity of the idea that has its outspring in Babylon and has travelled down through history to present time. The democratic idea is a mix of the rule of law, judges, rule of the king, socialeconomic ideas, scientific application in many things, religious underpinning of the state and so on. It is a complex system that should be designed to meet the people it should govern. Now americans are different from austrians and japanese, so the architecture of the specific democracy should be desgined to support the culture of that people. So, there are weaknesses of democracy, but it still is a very strong system. The only true competitor to democracy is the kingdom of Egypt, that in its prime was a very good system as well. When it comes to zionism, you have to understand Babylon in order to understand what zionism is. You know, Abraham tried to mend the problems of Babylon. Since Babylon is where democracy started, zionism has to understand itself in the framework of democracy. The idea of selfsacrifising love, is a political as well as a metaphysical tool. Hammurabi made the first true philosophical underpinning of the rule of law, Abraham made the first true solution to the real problem of democracy; moral corruption. So, in order to understand all the metaphysical/philosophical discussion that surrounds Abraham, Plato and other descendants of Mesapotamia, you have to see it as it was thought in the beginning. So, I hope you see my points, and sorry for me taking time in answering, but I had to think a lot about it, and read some Koestler as well. Very inspiring by the way, he was absolutely wonderful as a writer. Yours in deep respect :-) Asger P.s. Happy new year :-) Dear Rene :-)

Thank you for your comment. I have been pondering for some time on your critical stance on democracy and zionism.

First of all, as I see it, I do not hold the “simple” notion of either. With all respect for the zionist and democratic ideas that we have seen for long, I respectfully believe, that you have to see these ideas both in the simplicity as well as their complexity.

If you see democracy as only a simple voting system, you fail to appreciate the comlexity of the idea that has its outspring in Babylon and has travelled down through history to present time.

The democratic idea is a mix of the rule of law, judges, rule of the king, socialeconomic ideas, scientific application in many things, religious underpinning of the state and so on.

It is a complex system that should be designed to meet the people it should govern. Now americans are different from austrians and japanese, so the architecture of the specific democracy should be desgined to support the culture of that people.

So, there are weaknesses of democracy, but it still is a very strong system. The only true competitor to democracy is the kingdom of Egypt, that in its prime was a very good system as well.

When it comes to zionism, you have to understand Babylon in order to understand what zionism is. You know, Abraham tried to mend the problems of Babylon. Since Babylon is where democracy started, zionism has to understand itself in the framework of democracy.

The idea of selfsacrifising love, is a political as well as a metaphysical tool. Hammurabi made the first true philosophical underpinning of the rule of law, Abraham made the first true solution to the real problem of democracy; moral corruption.

So, in order to understand all the metaphysical/philosophical discussion that surrounds Abraham, Plato and other descendants of Mesapotamia, you have to see it as it was thought in the beginning.

So, I hope you see my points, and sorry for me taking time in answering, but I had to think a lot about it, and read some Koestler as well. Very inspiring by the way, he was absolutely wonderful as a writer.

Yours in deep respect :-)

Asger

P.s. Happy new year :-)

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